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Unauthorized Items/Factory Thefts: It is becoming a common thing lately to see Moncler jackets being sold online where all of the tags, labels and logo are perfectly accurate that they definitely came from a Moncler factory, but sometimes with the authenticity tag missing, and other times containing an authenticity code that comes up as "not found" in Moncler's system. This seems to be most commonly seen with the popular MAYA jacket. In such cases, the jacket was possibly stolen from a factory or made with stolen parts. The reason the authenticity tag might be missing on these jackets is because it is supposedly attached either by a different department or at a different facility that specifically handles the authenticity tags. In other cases, I have been told that the authenticity tags are attached at some factories but not registered in their database until it reaches their main distribution facility in Italy. How this is all handled may have changed over the last couple years. There are also genuine looking jackets where the parts will be mixed and matched from different years such as a 2014 style logo with a 2016 industries tag, or jackets with certain tags sewn in the wrong place. Many times the jackets mentioned above will be described as "factory direct" and almost always from the Romanian factory. There are even some online sellers with quantities of these jackets for sale. So the question is: Where do these jackets really come from? There is a lot of speculation on this and the most anyone can do is make assumptions. It's possible that Moncler has a bin for flawed items that do not pass quality control and perhaps workers are taking these items out of the factory, or perhaps they are stolen off the production line. Nobody knows for sure except for the people doing it. I have also been told that the factories that produce Moncler items have workers that make other brands as well, and those workers are sometimes able to get away with collecting materials and parts during the Moncler shift, where they assemble them into unauthorized jackets after hours. I have also seen some unauthorized items that DO contain an authenticity tag, BUT when attempting to check the code on Moncler's website, a message comes up that the product is not found. In such cases, it would appear that a worker was able to steal an authenticity tag, or an item that had the tag, but before the code was entered into Moncler's database. Here is one example: |
The industries tag is 100% accurate and it is a genuine Moncler tag without a doubt. The QR code tag is also perfect. However, the year on the tag is 2016 and the small authenticity tag pictured was discontinued after 2015, so no 2016 jacket would contain that style of tag. When the buyer of this shirt attempted to check the code from the tag, this was the message that appeared: |
The buyer contacted Moncler about this and they confirmed that it was not an authentic Moncler. I have also seen a few jackets recently where everything was 100% accurate, and the jacket contained the proper authenticity tag. However the code was not found in Moncler's system and an email to Moncler about the jacket resulted in them saying it was not authentic. So, in some cases, workers are able to get their hands on authenticity tags, or steal jackets that have that tag attached, but because the code from the tag was not registered with Moncler, the jacket will not come back as authentic. There are a lot of 2022 Maya jackets circulating in Europe that are perfect in every way but the code comes back as not found. Keep in mind that there are some Moncler jackets that are released by the company as a "sample", perhaps for fashion shows. An external tag on such items would have the letters CAMP on it, meaning "CAMPIONE" which is the Italian word for "sample". There are no internal tags stating such but a sample jacket also would likely not have an authenticity tag. My guess is that Moncler would still rate such a jacket as fake, simply because their sample items are not meant to be circulated to consumers. |
People have asked "If the jacket was made in a Moncler factory, isn't it a real Moncler then?" I guess you need to look at it in terms of buying and selling. Many Moncler buyers rely on the authenticity tag for proof that what they have bought is genuine. If no such tag exists, there is no way to prove authenticity, and if Moncler is contacted about it, they would state that it's not authentic, so buying and selling such items is risky, and possibly illegal. Because of the existence of the above described jackets, you can't consider a Moncler item to be authentic until you see every possible detail, and especially the authenticity tag. |
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